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Rick_nz
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:24 am Reply with quote
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Howdy Folks,
Does anyone know where I can find?
1. The latest updated versions of all the soft stick sparring format rules (as there are a couple of differant formats) and Wekaf rules
2. Or the new Wekaf committee members list or know of there plan for the next two years?
3. Will the new fighting categories at the invitational (Orlando)tournament be incorporated at the next Wekaf worlds ,(The smakstik and knife fighting ectect categories)
4. Did anyone here participate at the Wekaf worlds or Invitational in Orlando?How was the experience?How was the fighting ,judging compared with previous years?

Look forward to reading everyones replys.

YBIFMA

Rik

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mike-a
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:17 am Reply with quote
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It's my understanding that the WEKAF rules were originally drawn up by Diony Canete, based on the old NARAPHIL rules. Then, for each tournament, the rules would be discussed and set for each world champs. As I remember Pat posting somewhere the rules went from allowing thrusts, punyos and leg sweeps in the first world champs, to what it is today. I think the WEKAF USA website had the latest rules (google it up, I think Anthony Sells from Sage Martial Arts did the website)

For padded stick there are a *bunch* of rules. Bakbakan have a set (on the main website, but apparently the same rules exist for padded and live stick events). There is a group in the US that hold Laban Laro tournaments (I think I sent you the rules once, but, again, google it). Then there's the Arnis Philippines rules. Pat's folks have fought these rules, so they'll know better than many.
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Rick_nz
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:31 am Reply with quote
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mike-a wrote:
It's my understanding that the WEKAF rules were originally drawn up by Diony Canete, based on the old NARAPHIL rules. Then, for each tournament, the rules would be discussed and set for each world champs. As I remember Pat posting somewhere the rules went from allowing thrusts, punyos and leg sweeps in the first world champs, to what it is today. I think the WEKAF USA website had the latest rules (google it up, I think Anthony Sells from Sage Martial Arts did the website) .


Hey Mike,
Yeah I have had a bit of a search round and I couldn’t really find anything,
from my understanding at each of these Wekaf world events they set the Wekaf rules standards for the next round. At the invitational comp at Orlando they had a different/new format using the smak stix’s ectect and I hadn’t heard of any confirmation or feedback on how and what they were going to do for the next worlds as in are they going to be incorporating this format at the worlds or leave it at the invitational’s or scrap it all together .and what is the end result for the rules to this format.(soft stick diversions)

mike-a wrote:
For padded stick there are a *bunch* of rules. Bakbakan have a set (on the main website, but apparently the same rules exist for padded and live stick events). There is a group in the US that hold Laban Laro tournaments (I think I sent you the rules once, but, again, google it). .


Yup, I still got the rules in this format, one you sent me, the rules haven’t changed then?

mike-a wrote:
For Then there's the Arnis Philippines rules. Pat's folks have fought these rules, so they'll know better than many.


Cheers mate

YBIFMA

Riki

Ps I just found that article Kath wrote & im just downloading a Wekaf article from Fma digest,that I hadn’t seen,so I may be able to answer me own question lol

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mike-a
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:55 am Reply with quote
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They shot the pics for the article in the gym. I didn't even recognize it myself 'till Kathy pointed it out...

I'll try and dig up some more rule info.

I'm pretty sure Pat could help you more though, as He's fought both rules.
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Rick_nz
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:10 am Reply with quote
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mike-a wrote:
They shot the pics for the article in the gym. I didn't even recognize it myself 'till Kathy pointed it out...

I'll try and dig up some more rule info.

I'm pretty sure Pat could help you more though, as He's fought both rules.


Cheers Mike,
Yeah Pat & Lucy have been awesome in sharing there knowledge.

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Rick_nz
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:37 pm Reply with quote
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Hey Pat, Lucy
While you are in The Philippines are you able to find out the latest info on the Wekaf rules and fighting structure for the 2008 worlds in Cebu? The Wekaf usa site seems to be down. As I understand they update the rules every two years and they had soft stick sparring at t he invitational’s in Orlando this year. Will Wekaf be incorporating the soft stick format at the worlds or will that just be a structure for the Invitational tournament?

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Pat OMalley
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:37 am Reply with quote
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I will check tommorrow mate. But I am sure they will only be slight changes if any. Dont know about the padded stick as I think the guys in Manila are looking to work with GM Diony on this one.

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Rick_nz
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:34 am Reply with quote
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Cheers mate.Laughing
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Rick_nz
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:21 pm Reply with quote
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Pat OMalley wrote:
I will check tommorrow mate. But I am sure they will only be slight changes if any. Dont know about the padded stick as I think the guys in Manila are looking to work with GM Diony on this one.

YBIFMA

Pat


Hey Pat,Did you find out any new info on this??
Cheers

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Pat OMalley
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:53 am Reply with quote
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Well the WEKAF rules are as normal, no butt striking, thrusting, footsweeps etc etc, only allowed to hit with the stick. The only adaptation I can find is during the double stick, if you lose one of your sticks you keep going even though you lose the point for being disarmed.

I have a feeling the World Arnis Alliance and WEKAF may well work together in 2008. I will let you know when I find out more.

Also try Bandilan Doce Pares web site, I do beleive they have a set of the rules on their site too.

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Rick_nz
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:25 pm Reply with quote
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Hey Pat ,the rules i have are the 2004 rules (I also have the outline on becomminfg a referee/judge for wekaf).I think the Bandilan web site has a brifer descrition of the rules,I already have by memory.

mmm I didnt realise when fightint with two sticks & you lose one stick it's classed as a disarm,I thought it was when you lost both.

I look forward to your updates regarding the tournaments.

Cheers for the info Pat.

YBIFMA

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Rick_nz
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:46 am Reply with quote
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Pat OMalley wrote:
I will check tommorrow mate. But I am sure they will only be slight changes if any. Dont know about the padded stick as I think the guys in Manila are looking to work with GM Diony on this one.


Hey Pat this is the rules ectect,i was talking bout that they recently played with in Orlando at the WEKAF worlds (At the INVITATIONAL tournament)
http://fmatalk.com/showthread.php?t=738 (Sorry if this is wrong to post another forum here Embarassed )

Is this what the WAA and WEKAF looking at for 2008?

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Pat OMalley
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:19 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks for that info, and don't worry about posting other forums such as FMA Talk, I go on them myself from time to time and after all we have nothing to hide Wink

Looking through the rules I can say it is similar to WAA but with the exception of that they have way too much protection, e.g. gloves, elbow pads, throat protection etc.

I think they have tried to use similar rules to WAA but at the same time adapt it for the US safety laws.

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Rick_nz
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:04 pm Reply with quote
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Pat OMalley wrote:
Thanks for that info, and don't worry about posting other forums such as FMA Talk, I go on them myself from time to time and after all we have nothing to hide Wink


Cheers Pat

Pat OMalley wrote:
Looking through the rules I can say it is similar to WAA but with the exception of that they have way too much protection, e.g. gloves, elbow pads, throat protection etc.I think they have tried to use similar rules to WAA but at the same time adapt it for the US safety laws.


Laughing the good ole US of A and there safety laws Laughing enough said on that i say Laughing Wink Razz

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