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dhay
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:58 pm Reply with quote
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Im up for the tour bus this christmas time as long as my pocket allows me. ill definitely be around in the PI! I'm interested in NZ and OZ too as I've never been there before. Again, depending on my pocket size. hehe

Will have to figure out a way for my mom not to feel like i've replaced her with eskrima. BF already called me different names on the phone a couple of times (last night was 'leche!' - then he hung up on me hehe) because i've barely got time for him now. (Nothing comes between me and my MA! hehe)

I'm looking forward to Sinulog! Party! Party! Party! Wee!

Just keep me posted with the itinerary. Very Happy

Oh... and I'll help yaya Shelley with the kids. hehe (just pray I don't accidentally trample on em hehe) Twisted Evil

Love Lots
dhay
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Rick_nz
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:11 pm Reply with quote
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Hey Dhay ,that would be awesome if you are over here with the Clan.
I can get cheeky to you in person Laughing
instead of just on here Laughing

* starts stocking up the Lion Red for Pat*

*ordering some grapes for Lucy*

*stocking up the Stella's for Shelly*

*books a hospital room for Dhay for after her Dumog kiwi style session*

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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:18 pm Reply with quote
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lhommedieu wrote:

Riki,

I don't know. Certainly they are not exclusive to SME - anyone can use them for the same purposes.

As taught by Momoy they were intended to bring out certain attributes that he considered important. Double stick for example is designed to bring out ambidexterity (although it is interesting that the double stick form that I learned reflects double stick as if an espada y daga practitioner was performing it). It probably also reflects the influence of Momoy's older brother. Bangkaw is designed to teach you to link the shoulders together as a body mechanic since it is essentially a large lever. Ananangkil teaches you how to produce power with your legs and waist as well as to "stand in" against a larger, stronger opponent. The chain builds wrist strength although I suspect that it's also designed to help you to develop internal body mechanics. The whip helps to develop relaxed power as well as the ability to extend your intention to the tip of the weapon. The throwing knife helps to develop focus and concentration as well as relaxed power, etc.

Re. Eskrido I would imagine that you could develop similar methods for linking up your locks and throws to what the Chinese call "Dan Tien" and what the Japanese call "hara."


Hey Steve thanks for your reply.
Again it was a very informative reply,you have definatly added value to the RA Forums with your knowledge in the SME.I would just like to say thank you for sharing some of that knowledge.

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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:02 pm Reply with quote
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Rick_nz wrote:


*books a hospital room for Dhay for after her Dumog kiwi style session*

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i hate you too. hehe

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lhommedieu
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:56 am Reply with quote
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Rick_nz wrote:
Hey Steve thanks for your reply.
Again it was a very informative reply,you have definatly added value to the RA Forums with your knowledge in the SME.I would just like to say thank you for sharing some of that knowledge.


Sure, no problem. The more light that can be shone on this system the better. I am looking forward to GM Canete's DVD.

Following is an image of a SME cadena. This one was originally posted by Master Ramon Rubia, of Doce Pares International and the the San Miguel Eskrima Asosasyon. The image was on his website a couple years ago, but I can't find it onlne anymore:



I spoke to someone recently who has a similar SME cadena; he concurs that his has a handle with a guard like the one above. I had assumed that the cadena was rather heavy and about the same length as a garrote - but this one looks a lot longer and somewhat lighter. It will probably hit or lie on the ground some of the time. There appears to be a weight on the end. Anyhow I'll post some video this summer after I've practiced with it a little. It should be amusing to see if I don't lacerate the back of my head with it. Eye protection, ear protecton, etc...

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Pat OMalley
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:21 pm Reply with quote
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The SME DVD should be finished soon and I am dam sure we will be filmig more when we go back this year. This system needs to have more exposure as it is not appreciated enough in my opinion.

I look forward to seeing your finished results with the cadena Steve. Good luck and keep your head Laughing

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lhommedieu
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:57 pm Reply with quote
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For anyone interested I have an article published in the upcoming FMA Digest (Vol. 4 No. 3) about San Miguel Eskrima's "Downward" pattern.

The pattern under discussion is what I term a "linking" segment in the version of the San Miguel Form that I learned. You can see the pattern performed on YouTube if you go to their site and search under "San Miguel Eskrima" and "Downward."

Best,

Steve Lamade

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:34 pm Reply with quote
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lhommedieu wrote:
For anyone interested I have an article published in the upcoming FMA Digest (Vol. 4 No. 3) about San Miguel Eskrima's "Downward" pattern.

The pattern under discussion is what I term a "linking" segment in the version of the San Miguel Form that I learned. You can see the pattern performed on YouTube if you go to their site and search under "San Miguel Eskrima" and "Downward."

Best,

Steve Lamade


Here is the link to steves article:
http://www.fmadigest.com/Issues/current/Vol4_No3.pdf

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lhommedieu
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:55 am Reply with quote
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Just a follow-up. I had posted the following a couple weeks ago:

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I had assumed that the cadena was rather heavy and about the same length as a garrote - but this one looks a lot longer and somewhat lighter. It will probably hit or lie on the ground some of the time. There appears to be a weight on the end.


Length is about 60" - which makes it quite longer than I thought it would be. You can practice circular strikes such as Figure 8's and Flywheels with it and use your footwork (San Miguel Stepping, shifting, etc.) to start moving it around. It does hit the ground so a surface like concrete that you don't care about is probably the best medium upon which to practice.

If you put a small weight on the end (a lead sinker for example) it would definitely do some damage but I think that it is more practical to use to develop attributes.

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lhommedieu
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:53 am Reply with quote
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Here's a link to a clip of Master Panto Flores demonstrating some basic cadena technique. My converter didn't do a very good job on the speed and sound - but you guys should get the idea:

www.northshoreac.com/panto_flores_cadena.mp4

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Steve Lamade

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Pat OMalley
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:32 pm Reply with quote
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Sorry mate but the link did not work for me, any chance you can You Tube it Very Happy

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lhommedieu
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:21 pm Reply with quote
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Pat OMalley wrote:
Sorry mate but the link did not work for me, any chance you can You Tube it :D

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Pat


You bet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5hVd7eVff8

Sorry about the quality. The sound (in real time) is ahead of the video and it stops in the middle. Judge nudge the bar a little and it will continue.

I tried this with a homemade 2 1/2 lb. cadena this afternoon and can easily see that I'm going to need (in addition to eye protection) a little protection while I'm learning. Specifically:

a helmet
a cup

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Pat OMalley
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:54 am Reply with quote
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Never mind the quality it's the content that's more important, thanks for sharing, looks great.

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