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| Lucy O'Malley |
 Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:01 am |
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So How do you make 7?
1 5 2 5 1 5 2......is this it?
But then that does not make 1521.....can you explain again, just for me because I am a little dim on occasion.
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| durka durka |
| Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:17 am |
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hey lucy... can you clarify {7}? ...
r u relating it to the basic 1-7 strikes we teach in the early grades?
the 1521 drill is just a drill made up of numbers to make a pattern- yes.. for this to flow for me i would change it to.. 1525,1525...etc works even simplar as 125... down down thrust... |
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| Rick_nz |
| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:08 am |
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durka durka wrote:
the 1521 drill is just a drill made up of numbers to make a pattern- yes.. .
I think Danny has hit the nail on the head Lucy.
How that relates to the 7 basic strikes is a good question.
I asked the author the other day when he was around home and he said the same sort of thing as Danny,
And couldnt exactly remember the 7 strike pattern of “1521” drill,
he was going to look at his notes and get back to me,
so when i find out ,i shall let everyone know. |
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| Lucy O'Malley |
| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:08 am |
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durka durka wrote: hey lucy... can you clarify {7}? ...
r u relating it to the basic 1-7 strikes we teach in the early grades?
the 1521 drill is just a drill made up of numbers to make a pattern- yes.. for this to flow for me i would change it to.. 1525,1525...etc works even simplar as 125... down down thrust...
Sorry, I do not mean to offend. This is where I am getting confused on the subject:
Rick NZ wrote: Actualy i have one question (Yes only one question )
the 7 strike pattern of “1521”. what strikes does that consist of?
Quote: The system has all the contents like most other eskrima systems.like single stick - double stick - espada Y daga - knife - locks - empty hands.
the only exception is that the diamondback system had a 7 strike system instead of a 12 strike system like most other systems of eskrima
Durka Durka wrote: lookn good - cheers rick...
the seven stike -starting strike system is.... how many numbers do you need...
Diamond Back wrote: I would guess that 1521 is a daga technique if the #'s relate to strikes.
These strikes are
1 - Forehand Down Diag
5 - Thrust to gut / Groin / SP
2 - Backhand Down Diag
1 - see 1 above
However this strike pattern does not gel with me.
i.e. I dont think it relates to our strike #s - maybe Balintawak
Durka Durka wrote: just clicked onto wot you were talkn about with 1521- not the year lol....would seem logical if it was a knife drill but went 1diag slash down,5thrust,2diag slash down,5 repeat- bit boring but gets the repitition in...
Sorry again. I thought the subject was still on the 7 strike system that Diamond Back Eskrima has and as no clarifications were made along the way I assumed that was what everyone was still talking about, hence my confusion.
I assume now that it was several different drill being discussed, but would still like to know the 7 strike system that you use.
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| durka durka |
| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:08 pm |
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the 7 strikes- is a basic starting point, i think dp has 12 strikes? we are similar with out over head and low hits... but later we modify with other stuf and angles etc...will show you 1 day a?.....
and the 1521 thing..... play with it and find your own flow , use different weapons and mix it with a live hand... see wot you can discover, its only patterns and training sequences a.. u may discover a new angle or drill hey.... |
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| DiamondBack |
| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:32 pm |
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Quick Summary of Topic as I understand it.
The initial question was about a drill "1521" which it was assumed was a subset of our systems basic 7 strike pattern.
I replied that this combination of strikes did not feel right.
(Understand that this is tantamount to my saying it is not DBE within the context of 7 strikes.)
However, this is not to say that this drill is not from
A) the Saavedra style
B) Balintawak
C) Kalis Illustrisimo
D) Inting Carin's system
E) Tanny Campos Pangamot
D) All the Canete personal styles Momoy, Inko, Cacoy, Dionisio
which all have different strike patterns let alone drill patterns.
Lucy, our initial or basic 7 strike patern consists of 4 slashes forming 2 X's over the target, followed by 3 thrusts in a triangular pattern. |
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| Walking Target |
| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:55 pm |
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If you number the four quadrants plus stomach 1 - 5, DBE strikes would hit:
1234521
...with the last three being thrusts. Maybe its an abbreviation of this sequence?
*shrug*
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| DiamondBack |
| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:16 am |
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Just finished reading a FMA book and it looks like RandomMan hit the nail on the Head.
LapuLapu Knows.
This is the year that Magellan , leader of the conquistadors, was killed by LapuLapu
a local chief Blah Blah Blah ramble zzzzz.
Our tradition has it that Magellan died due to poisoning / complications from 'Poo Stick' i.e. Smearing the tip of a sharpened fire-hardened stick with faeces.
So 1521 is most likely a reference to "CHEATING", or as we call it improving OUR odds. |
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| Pat OMalley |
| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:53 am |
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According to historical records, The written diary of Piggafetta, The battle raged between over a thousand islanders and a handfull of Magellan's men.
Magellan held off a large number of islanders so his crew could make it back to their ship and was struck in the leg with a spear, he tried to draw his sword (he was also fighting with a lance) but his injury hidered him, he was again struck in the face with a spear and on seeing this the islanders swooped on him and began beating him to death, the final blow witnessed by Piggafetta was said to have come from a large Scimitar?Cutlass type sword (most likely a Kampilan) and at that point he made they comment that they had lost their light and inspiration.
There was no actual mention of Lapu Lapu actally being their during the battle and this has been put down to assumption as he was the Chieftan of the Island. It is also said that Lapu Lapu later made peace with Raja Humabon and then retrned to Bornio with his wives.
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| Rick_nz |
| Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:01 am |
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| Ermehn |
| Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:41 am |
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| There were some polynesian races where during battle they would also put faeces on there weapons but mainly on rocks which were thrown at da enemy at close range' causing the skin to break and for infection to take hold and here we have the humble beginings of GERM WARFARE in the south pacific lol true story.. more CREATIVE than CHEATING i think hahah and it does work! but dont ask lol |
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| durka durka |
| Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:38 am |
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sweet... more stories ....
r... but then why is the number 1 at the beginning and the end of the story- is it to begin [eye ]win or an[ i ] or a [1] they look similar in shape. is the creater of these shapes painting a picture of movment for an artist to recreate... or did lapu lapu say ' oh ffs - there s how many of them and then just did something and then lots of years later it randomized to become this sequence , wots the next pattern lol... draw them play with the shapes and u will find your own paintings - go slow go fast with every object you can hold or not and the patterns will become funky fresh so that you will be able to contain multipe dimentional configeration, this will sweetn up any same old same old training sessions and bring the randomness in...
extrapalation -
1- stab to eye win
5-chop his head of/ cut bak thru the body
2- start of a figure 8 , an eternity of slashes
1- WOT! your still standn- then repeat the above sequence..
dam... kud of used that in a seminar....
cheating is like winning with your rules but only u can change them, even on the fly... and this helps so 1 dosnt get to much of a pastn... refer to lar hzu - the art of war were he fights a renound samurai and sneekys up the battle feild to his advantage... well thats another story lol... |
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