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| durka durka |
 Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:35 pm |
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so.... my understanding is that there shall be a nz stick fighting tournement later in 2008- {hopefully smaller events sooner?}
different formats to be arranged when dates and times are at hand by the orginisers.......
what im interested in is - are there any players of palakaw in nz... and can we chew on some rules and formulas for a succesful play?
has everyone heard of palakaw?
ask away.................. :) |
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| Rick_nz |
| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:44 am |
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Hey mini-me,
PALAKAW:
this rings a bell,but i am (hate to say it) not very good with some of the termanolgy of some of the drills ectect in the FMA.
What is Palakaw?
I did write up a draft tournament NZ rules on our thread if that helps.
Smaller events could be arranged by having a grassroots have a go day once a month in every NZCKEAI members area ,and charge a blue note,that will go towards players attending the NZ stick fighting tournement later in 2008.
Thats my ramble for the night 
ps would this discusion be more suited in the NZCKEAI thread? |
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| durka durka |
| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:21 am |
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cheers for the reply rick but it sits nicely in here thanks :) its about generating interesting topics and input thats available for all and not just for the council...... i am interested if there are other players out there who are able to play this gentlemans style of game... it is very differenent from the limited sports fighting were ya get to bash each other in bulky armor.... palakaw is a concept style of sparring/fighting with the ideal of acceptance and fair play when the opposition scores a beautiful shot- we call it {the given} or sweet or nice... its about continual flow grace speed and accuracy.. points deducted for stepping out of a circle about the same size as a basketball circle and deductions for hitting, additional points are gained by out classing out manovering countering and being more skillfull than the other...like chess..... yet your concept is that its a blade and your fending for your life... very intense yet safe if the players are evolved to were there is no ego... and the heads up as a gentleman when the other scores a clean cut/shot.... both players are exusted when finished and no injuries! well thats the concept.....
the game starts slow the builds to a fantastic speed- amazing to wotch if you understand why....
additionally it trains the live hand and brings about the complete fma...it also promotes respect and develops the mind... were as the armour styles and padded weapons promote the bash.....
imagin sticking hands but with weapons........
simple equipment -ball box/ safety goggles/ a stick... {or for entertainment sake a weapon of choice could be a fish slice or a plunger or a feather........}
then the players free style it... lol
easyer than carring 20kgs of armour and sweatn like a demon with a huge limiting cage on ya head....
no disrespect to the sports style- it has its place and uses... great for the teenages and high energy bunnies to lossen there bash out in.....
i did this a couple a decades ago and prefer the smoothness of palakaw.........
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| Rick_nz |
| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:18 am |
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Cheers Brother for your reply.
So its more like shell sparring in CDPWF or a similar version we play with is both players have a stick in hand no armour and start of in a tai chi type style and build up the speed with confidence,so end result you look like your going hammer and tongs but not hurting anyone.
That would be correct yeah.
I use to think like you
(were as the armour styles and padded weapons promote the bash..... )
I believe now ,compared to when say you competed it is all in the mind as if you go in and use the armor as a sacrifice to make a strike or counter then you are bashing ,but if you go into it as if you have no armour on.The dynamics are differant and if you have a referee/judge that controls the play with the mind frame of having armour on ,but thinking you have no armour then you have armoured stickfighting not stick bashing.
Ok thats me ramble again
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| Pat OMalley |
| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:32 am |
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Rick_nz wrote: Cheers Brother for your reply.
So its more like shell sparring in CDPWF or a similar version we play with is both players have a stick in hand no armour and start of in a tai chi type style and build up the speed with confidence,so end result you look like your going hammer and tongs but not hurting anyone.
That would be correct yeah.
I use to think like you
(were as the armour styles and padded weapons promote the bash..... )
I believe now ,compared to when say you competed it is all in the mind as if you go in and use the armor as a sacrifice to make a strike or counter then you are bashing ,but if you go into it as if you have no armour on.The dynamics are differant and if you have a referee/judge that controls the play with the mind frame of having armour on ,but thinking you have no armour then you have armoured stickfighting not stick bashing.
Ok thats me ramble again
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| mike-a |
| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:32 pm |
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In Ilustrismo Kali, it's called laro-laro (literally "play-play"). It starts off with one person feeding (at least how we do it) in a drill called Cuatro Cantos, but as it develops, both players take offense and defense.
This kind of play requires a degree of trust between players. As Danny says, it's more flowing than anything else. I'm not sure it fits in a sporting context, as rules and egos to to either stifle things or add ego (and likely injuries) into the mix. I think, done properly, it requires maturity from the players. Again, as Danny says, "A Gentleman's game"
That said, it would be *really* interesting to get players of different styles to have a play. Maybe it's something we want to think about after an event, kind of off at the side to take the competition edge off it. |
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| DiamondBack |
| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:21 am |
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Yeah, thats what I want to see Full non-contact Palakaw.
Extra points for slow motion strikes.
No armour, No responsibility, No INJURIES (except the EGO) |
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| DiamondBack |
| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:58 pm |
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Maybe you should re-raise this question on the NZCKEAI thread now we are closer to the event.
Maybe we should offer some seminar options ?? |
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