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| jonbroster |
 Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:26 am |
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Hi,
Summer's here, now is the time to get in shape. 
Why? To look good on the beach? 
No, because there are only 8 weeks until the British Arnis Championships, to be held on Sunday 30th September in Mansfield 
The last competition was fantastic, hopefully this will be even better.
Full details at:
http://www.rapidarnis.com/BRITISH%20ARNIS%20CHAMPS.jpg
Check out the great poster. Especially the rather athletic looking type in shorts, going in for a leg shot. 
See you there!
Jon |
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| Damien Alexander |
| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:45 am |
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In the words of Micheal McDonald...
"Ya'mo be there"!!!
I am looking forward to fighting in the double stick catagory!
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| jonbroster |
| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:39 pm |
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Hi,
At competitions, alongside the fighting (single and double stick) there isnormally a forms event.
Last time thiswas in 2 divisions: male & female.
On the day, the men all did something fairly standard/traditional, but the women all did something to music (& Rebecca fused it with some Celtic dance!)
My concern is that if people in the same division do forms that are totally different in nature, it would be virtually impossible to judge.
(About 20 years ago I was at the Combat Open and saw a WuShu guy win several divisions with the same drunken monkey pole form - how can you compare that with Bassai Dai?)
Would it, therefore make more sense to have 2 divisions:
Traditional & Creative?
I don't see a problem with people entering both.
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| Damien Alexander |
| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:09 pm |
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I have to agree with you Jon.
I think there should be 2 different catagories.
Personally,it took me almost 2 years to get off green belt in shotokan because I absolutely despise doing forms,but I do love watching a good,proper tradtional form being executed with flawless precision.
"Creative" can be of some use as well.
But then again,"creative" seems to dictate XMA; which,in my opinion, has nothing to do with traditional martial arts.
It's just gymnastics in silk pajamas. 
But then again.... I am an old school type of guy 
Seriously, I do see where you are comming from.
I think there should be 2 seperate divisions.
I do believe wholeheartedly in keeping tradition alive and I do believe in freedom of expression and bringing the old into the 21st century.
It seems XMA has pushed the need for flawless precision to the back of the line. But that is the true test to me.....flawlessness
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| Rick_nz |
| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:14 pm |
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Hey guys have a look here
W.E.K.A.F Rules:
They have a Traditional sayaw and open sayaw division.
Maybe thats what you guys need.weither you have seperate divisions for men and woman or keep them both togeather.
So what you will have is
A male and A female division in Traditional sayaw division. which is forms strictly executed according to curriculm.
A male and A female division in open sayaw division. which is executed freeform with or with out music.
It would really be hard and unfair to judge both Traditional and open in the same catagory.
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| Pat OMalley |
| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:13 am |
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The problem at the moment is that not enough people are entering the Sayaw events, when they do then we can have two seperate events for trad and creative, but as FMA dictates the traditional aspect of the art is somewhat creative in nature so again hard to divide the two other than one may have music and the other not, but then again music in Sayaw is also considered by many to be traditional.
So hard one really
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| jonbroster |
| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:50 am |
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Hi
My point was really, that instead of having male and female divisions we should have traditional and creative.
The music used in a traditional forms could be some drumming or something similar, but forms with pop/rock music and Irish dance steps should be in the creative section.
I appreciate that choice of music here might be somewhat arbitrary, there is nothing traditional about African misic or even Indonesian gamelan in the FMA, they just seem a little more fitting than Riverdance or Metallica!
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| scotty |
| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:53 am |
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Hi,
I would have to agree with Rick on the matter of traditional and open form sayaw.
The competition last year was great and the forms categories went well on the traditional side of things but my own opinion on the freeform seemed to take the tradition away and turn it into just jigging with a stick in your hand.
But thats only my opinion, but 2 catagories probably is the way to go.
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| Pat OMalley |
| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:23 am |
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Well I have to agree on the jigging part as there was very little FMA in it, more dancing which is not my thing, but did make me chuckle.
Will see what we can do
YBIFMA
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| mike-a |
| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:19 am |
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Way back in the day, I trained in a japanese system that did an interesting thing with forms competion. They included the application. Normally against 4 opponents one nort, one south , one east, one west. They attacked and you did your thing. For each of the standard forms there was a set of applications.
Maybe room for something similar in FMA forms, first do the form, then actually use it? |
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| Rick_nz |
| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:30 pm |
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mike-a wrote: Way back in the day, I trained in a japanese system that did an interesting thing with forms competion. They included the application. Normally against 4 opponents one nort, one south , one east, one west. They attacked and you did your thing. For each of the standard forms there was a set of applications.
Maybe room for something similar in FMA forms, first do the form, then actually use it?
Hey Mike,
Going along the lines of what you mentioned. In my old style of karate there was what they called a Yaksu (SP?) division which was made up of 4 attackers and 1 defender and you demonstrated choreographic combat moves. Instead of using a form like you mentioned it was just made up..
Like you say Mike there maybe room for something similar in FMA. |
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| Rick_nz |
| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:25 am |
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Hey Guys,
Good luck and have fun on Sunday,to all those that will be attending the British Arnis champs 2007.
I look forward to reading about everyones experience.
Cheers
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| Pat OMalley |
| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:04 pm |
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As I said here are the results of the 2nd British Arnis Alliance (Kali Sports) Stick Fighting Championships (Padded Stick) held at the Queen Elizabeth School in Mansfield on September 30th 2007.
Open Sayaw (Forms)
Co-1st Jon Broster - Rapid Arnis Nottingham
Co-1st Lucy O'Malley - Rapid Arnis International
2nd Jacob Stewart - Rapid Arnis Huddersfield
Single Stick Sparring Division
Under 16's Boy's
1st Jacob Stewart - Rapid Arnis Huddersfeild
2nd Daniel Marron - Rapid Arnis Barnsley
3rd George Smith - Rapid Arnis Barnsley
Women's Open Weight
1st Lucy O'Malley - Rapid Arnis International
2nd Jo Hicks - Urban Martial Arts Leicester
Men's Lightweight
1st Graham Edwards - Bakbakan UK
2nd Jamie Rowson - Wigan JKD Kali
3rd Salesh Parmas - Urban Martial Arts Leicester
Men's Middleweight
1st Jon Broster - Rapid Arnis Nottingham
2nd Alan Salih - Urbam Martial Arts Leicester
3rd Dave Freeman - Urban Martial Arts Leicester
Men's Heavyweight
1st Andy Marren - Rapid Arnis Barnsley
2nd Alan Foogitt - Urban Martial Arts Leicester
3rd Lee Pritchard - Bakbakan UK
Double Stick Sparring Division
Men's Openweight
1st Sirwar Aziz - Urban Martial Arts Leicester
2nd Graham Edwards - Bakbakan UK
3rd Jamie Rowson - Wigan JKD Kali
Long Stick (5 foot) Sparring Division
Men's Openweight
1st Andy Marren - Rapid Arnis Barnsley
2nd Jamie Rowson - Wigan JKD Kali
3rd Graham Edwards - Bakbakan UK
Well done everyone of a great day of fighting and see you all at the next on in early 2008.
A special thanks has to go out to Peter Lewis and Bob Melia of Bakbakan UK, Jon Broster of of Rapid Arnis Nottingham, Kwoklyn Wan of Urban Martial Arts, the Wigan JKD Kali boys, Lucy O'Malley of RAI, Ken Bradbury of RA Hudderfeild and al the others who helped in the officiating which made the day run smoothly.
And a special thanks to GM Bobby Taboada for dropping by to say hello and show his support, that was a great surprise for all the participants, many of whom have never met a GM before.
And of course thanks to all the fighters for giving a great show of sportsmanship with no arguments and ending with all smiling.
Well done everyone and see you all next year.
YBIFMA
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| jonbroster |
| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:45 am |
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Hi,
I hope everyone enjoyed the competition as much as I did.
The large swelling on my left calf has gone now, but most of my lower leg is now a strange purply-grey colour! 
See you all next time
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| edges |
| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:39 am |
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