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| Pat OMalley |
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OK, as some of you may know, and some of you may not, Doce Pares was originally founded by the Masters of 12 styles.
But this does not nessaserally mean it is limited to those 12 original styles, as you know with time, things change and new ideas develop.
So can you tell me what Doce Pares Styles you know of that are taught within the Doce Pares Systems?
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| ap Oweyn |
| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:04 am |
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I don't know that this technically answers the question. But here goes.
I've only ever studied Doce Pares from one source. The Patalinghug family. But I've done a couple of seminars with GM Cacoy Canete (happy belated birthday). And so I know that his Doce Pares is somewhat different from the Patalinghug Doce Pares, even though the two are closely aligned.
Basic things like the 12 angles are different. Much of the focus is different too, but a certain amount of that can be chalked up to personality, I think.
In any event, when I'm describing my background, I tend to say "Patalinghug Doce Pares" to reflect this fact. (Even though the Patalinghugs certainly don't make that distinction themselves.)
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| Pat OMalley |
| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:51 pm |
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Apart from the training with GM Diony Canete (Doce Pares Original Multi Style), I had the fortune to have a day session with Master Jo Broces in 'Eskrido' Now his Eskrido differed somewhat from GM Cacoy's in that he was already a senior Aikido'ist before joining Doce Pares and he has blended them very nicely to come up with a very very effective Eskrido system.
He blew me away with the power and ease that he could tie you up in a not and then throw you round like a rag doll with no effort at all.
Then we had the unique oppertunity to attend the 1st Inoguration (SP?) of Officers of the Vicar Doce Pares Organisation (The style of the late GM Intin Carin) and got to see all of their top Masters in action. Fantastic.
You know when you see something you know but done with a differnt point of veiw and it makes it look different, well then that is what I saw and it was great.
Also lets not forget the Balintawak and Lapunit Arnis De Abanico people, who were originally from Doce Pares too, they too have their own very unique and and wonderful way of playing in FMA to great effect. So in a way they are brothers of the same family.
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| Rick_nz |
| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:15 pm |
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| Pat OMalley |
| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:08 am |
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Hi Rick,
Yep about right with the 3 main styles, and then there is Vicar Doce Pares of the Carin family, was at the inorgaration of officers in January, they do the Retirada style from Doce Pares.
Then of you have Guba Doce Pares of GM Danny Guba, who has his own unique way of getting the message accross.
I also train with GM Dan Nalasco in 2000 of the Doce Pares Original, which is his own group
And like you mentioned the are others that left and formed there own clubs, with the most well known being Balintawak, then you also have Lapunti of the late Filimon Caburnay which is now beeing run by his son Ondo Caburnay, he is awsome, I have done quite a bit of work with him.
Each time I go to the Philippines I tend to find out more about some of the other groups who are linked in one form or another with DP.
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| mike-a |
| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:37 pm |
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There's also "corto linear", which later became Balintawak.
But that's a whole mess of stuff... |
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| Pat OMalley |
| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:28 am |
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Corto Curvada, Corto Original, Serra Todo are another 3.
Any more folks
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| mike-a |
| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:55 pm |
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Pat, the staff and spear stuff you mentioned in the advanced forms, is that a sub-system as well, or does it come from Sam Miguel?
Does the siniwali count as another system?
How about Pangamut? I believe GM Cacoy does separate gradings for pamgamut and eskrima. |
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| Rick_nz |
| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:39 am |
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You could also put Rapid Arnis in the mix there to.
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| Pat OMalley |
| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:11 am |
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mike-a wrote: Pat, the staff and spear stuff you mentioned in the advanced forms, is that a sub-system as well, or does it come from Sam Miguel?
Does the siniwali count as another system?
How about Pangamut? I believe GM Cacoy does separate gradings for pamgamut and eskrima.
Then of course you have the Retirada style.
Any more, come on get your thinking caps on 
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| Rick_nz |
| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:22 pm |
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Hello People.
Ok at first I thought Pat was asking about the Docepares systems which would be DP multi-style –DP Eskrido – San Miguel and any one else’s interpretation.
Rereading through and I think Pat is asking about the component styles of Doce Pares,so if that is the case my answer will be:
Single stick compromising of close range (corto) ,corto linear, corto traditional ,corto Original, corto Kurbada.
Medium range (media largo),Long range (larga mano)
Double stick
Espada Y daga
Mano-mano consisting of punch and kick (Sumbag Patid),Locks and Immobilization (Lubag –torsi)Sera Toda,Takedowns and grappling (Layog –Dumog)
Baraw (knife techiniques)
Long Blade (Sundang)
Sayaw /Karenza (Forms
Would that be what you are asking Pat 
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| jonbroster |
| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:42 pm |
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Not forgetting latiko (whip)
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| Rick_nz |
| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:58 pm |
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And the long staff system ,Im not quiet sure on the name of it.
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| mike-a |
| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:56 pm |
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| DiamondBack |
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[quote="mike-a"]
Does the siniwali count as another system?
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Most of the siniwali we do in DBE is from the
scissor system |
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